Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt’s interview with Dr Jay Davidson, host The Chronic Lyme Disease Summit 2 is one of the most interesting and encouraging Lyme disease interviews I’ve heard for a long time! He covers the Latest on Lyme Testing and Treatments. The reason it’s so encouraging is that chronic Lyme disease is notoriously difficult to test for.
Dr. Klinghardt starts by sharing why Lyme disease goes undiagnosed in many instances:
Lyme is highly compartmentalized. That means it sets up sanctuaries in different body compartments, and chronic Lyme is not living in the blood. Lyme may be in the blood in acute Lyme but not in chronic Lyme.
In chronic Lyme it may be in the right hippocampus but not in the entire brain, maybe in the brain stem but not the liver. It may be in your disk of L4-L5 but not in other disks and so on and so forth.
It lives in biofilm. We know that. It lives in the cell, but it doesn’t stray.
He goes on to share that the common immune system-based Lyme disease tests that use blood testing are misleading because with chronic Lyme
the blood or the white blood cells are not in contact with the actual microbes and you do not get the immune activation…So many cases go undiagnosed.
Dr. Klinghardt shares a wonderful technique that he and one of the world’s most renowned ultrasound radiologists, Dr. Marco Ruggiero, have developed for both testing and to improve treatment:
We know that when you put ultrasound …on a group of cells, it squeezes and relaxes the cells at a very high speed and squeezes out things from the cell that shouldn’t be in there. And so, we had the theory if you apply ultrasound to an area where we suspect Lyme spirochetes or Bartonella or Babesia or Ehrlichia, then those microbes are forced into the connective tissue. And some of them will stray from there into the blood, and some of them will be excreted through the kidneys into the urine.
With that principle, we found an incredible increase in our findings that most of the people that were suspected of having chronic Lyme disease didn’t just have Borrelia burgdorferi, but they had also Borrelia miyamotoi. They had Babesia duncani, Babesia microti. They had Bartonella henselae.
So what we do, we have set up a certain sequence of using ultrasound on the brain, on the thymus, on the spleen, on the vagus nerve, and on the brain stem. We drive out the microbes, and then we collect the urine and find the microbes. This is by far the best test we use – the PCR testing – looking for whole strands of DNA of the bugs in the urine.
That testing has been the most rewarding test in my whole lifetime. We are publishing a paper that comes out later this month in the American Journal of Immunology where we lay out the details of this technique. That’s what we do at the Sophia Health Institute.
The whole treatment takes less than 10 minutes, and then it’s the first urine that naturally occurs after that that’s collected. And then we send it to the lab for PCR testing, and insurance pays if you do it with Lab Corp. There’s other labs that offer this test now. And it can cost up to $500 to test for 14 of the coinfections.
Here is the title of that paper: The Ruggiero-Klinghardt (RK) Protocol for the Diagnosis and Treatment of Chronic Conditions with Particular Focus on Lyme Disease and the lab DNA Connexions is mentioned in this paper.
He goes on to explain how they also use the therapeutic ultrasound as an instrument to optimize drug uptake and utilization in specific areas of the body order to eliminate the bacteria.
Later on in the interview Dr. Klinghardt makes this bold and rather concerning statement:
Most of my patients with severe, persistent Lyme disease have never had a tick bite. They had a spider bite or a flea bite or a bite from a stinging fly. So these are insect-borne diseases but not tick-borne diseases.
Dr. Klinghardt has been at the forefront of Lyme disease treatment for years and now bringing even further wisdom to this very challenging condition. I really look forward to learning more about all this from this amazing practitioner.
The Chronic Lyme Disease Summit 2 runs June 19-26, 2017 and Dr. Klinghardt’s interview airs on day 2 of the summit.
Be sure to also listen to:
- Leslie Douglas: DNA Connexions PCR Assay (the testing Dr. Klinghardt uses) and
- Jonathan Streit: Testing for Functional Neurological Issues
This summit will help you understand symptoms (common and rare), diagnosis and testing, practical at-home health tips, healing protocol explanations and more!
And it will hopefully give you some insights to any ongoing health issues you may have that may actually be due to Lyme disease (even if you have not yet been diagnosed). It’s something I consider with all my clients that are not seeing symptom resolution.
Register here for The Chronic Lyme Disease Summit 2
Last year I was interviewed on Lyme anxiety and how to use GABA and other amino acids to ease the anxiety while you are working on addressing the Lyme disease. I’m not speaking this year but that interview and some of my other Lyme anxiety resources are available to summit purchasers. I actually mention Dr Klinghardt in that interview because he finds that his Lyme patients don’t get well until they have addressed pyroluria.
If you live in Sydney, Australia, you can hear Dr. Kinghardt present live this weekend during his 1 day event: Core Protocols for Chronic Illness. If you’re not a practitioner be sure to let your healthcare provider know about this event.
Feel free to post questions or feedback below.
Melinda Jach says
Trudy I was bitten by something in my yard that left a bite mark in the middle and then a ring of red on the outside of the inner thigh. It was skin color in the middle. It also itched terribly. Could that have been Lyme from a spider bite? I need to get tested I have joint pain all over and unexplained fatigue. Sign me up!
Thanks
Trudy Scott says
Melinda
It would be best to see a doctor to see if they can determine what it was from. I would suggest looking for a Lyme literate doctor. My colleague Dr. Elisa Song has a very helpful blog http://healthykidshappykids.com/2017/06/04/tics/
I hope you’re able to join the Lyme summit so you can learn more in case it was a tick bite.
Robert Grove says
I see BioFire makes the film array bio surveillance system that has an automated protocol and requires limited hands-on time and training. The unit is for use in the field, but I’m sure it wouldn’t be difficult to get certified to use ultrasound equipment. I wonder if these machines are as accurate, this would be a useful tool for giving peoples illness a name. Blood probably works better than urine, that’s what LabCorp does pcr testing on. It seems to me that either method is a waste of money without the proper ultrasound frequency is applied.
Trudy Scott says
Robert
It sounds like you know more about this than me! I’d suggest contacting Dr. Klinghardt and his team
Melanie Wood says
Hi Trudy: I am wondering if you have done an article about oxalates? As I know you have suffered with this and it would be so helpful to read about oxalates, what are they, foods, and how you cured yourself of this. Thanking you in advance. Melanie
Trudy Scott says
Melanie
I have done a few (feel free to search the blog) – here is one where I talk about my issues with Julie Matthews https://www.everywomanover29.com/blog/oxalates-leaky-gut-anxiety-webinar-replay/
Teresa May says
Hello,
I am looking for help for my 26 year old son who has been suffering with psychosis….he was found to have Lyme Disease and we have been going through years of various treatment protocols but the psychosis just seems to come back…we are not too sure of the triggers and his mental health diagnosis varies depending on which doctor we are speak to…medications do not work on him since he is so drug sensitive and a poor metabolizer with the MTHFR gene mutation….so clearly he has a lot going on and no one really know what to do. Yet, recently one of the tests that Cameron had was a Amino Acid Profile Qn Plasma which showed he had elevated ‘high’ amino acid levels for the following:
Alpha Aminobutyrate 36.9
Valine 436.5
Isoleucine 115.0
Leucine 223.3
Hdroxylysine 1.8
The rest of the amino acid results were in the ‘normal’ ranges….yet I know his elevated amino acid levels mean something and are possibly connected to his symptoms. I cannot find anyone who knows what this means, what is causing this, and what to do about it…..any suggestions????
Thank you so much!!!
Trudy Scott says
Teresa
I’m afraid I don’t know of the relevance of these amino acids being high for psychosis. I would have the practitioner who ordered to test discuss with the lab. I would also find a Lyme specialist who has experience with neuropsychiatric symptoms like Dr. Suruchi Chandra https://www.everywomanover29.com/blog/neuropsychiatric-lyme-disease-suruchi-chandra/
Teresa May says
Thank you Trudy….the practitioner ran the tests but did not know what the results meant!!! I find some doctors are good at ordering tests…but don’t know what to do with the results!!!! So , I have been looking for someone who knows about amino acid levels….thank you!
Teresa
Trudy Scott says
Teresa
The labs allow the practitioner to book a consult to explain test results when the practitioner is new to the test – so I’d follow-up with him/her.
Francesca says
HI Trudy. I live in Hobart Australia and wondering if you know of any Australian practitioners who offer this new lyme testing by urine? Thankyou. Francesca
Trudy Scott says
Francesca
I’m not familiar with all Lyme tetsing options in Australia but do know that many USA companies extend testing services to Australia so I’d check with them and ask for practitioner referrals. Did just learn about this Lyme testing but haven’t delved into it yet https://www.niim.com.au/research/niim-pathogen-blood-test-research-study
Ginette Cosgrove says
I live in Canada and would like to know who to contact for this more accrurate testing and suppprt
Trudy Scott says
Ginette
I would follow-up with doctors who are using it – like Dr. Klinghardt, Dr. Marco Ruggiero and Dr. Jay Davidson
Chloe Biocca says
Hi Trudy, I’m looking for a practicionner who does the Ultrasound provokes test in eastern Canada. I have severe Lyme disease and it would be really helpful. Do you know of any practitioner who does it, or do you know of any places/people/links that could lead me to find someone ? Many thanks,have a beautiful day, Chloé
Trudy Scott says
Chloe
I suggest reaching out to Dr. Ruggiero, Dr. Klinghardt and/or the lab DNA Connexions.