Julie Matthews, CNC, is one my guest experts on The Anxiety Summit 5: Gut-Brain Axis and our topic is: Anxiety & the Gut-Brain Axis in Autism. In this interview you’ll learn:
- Nutritional and dietary intervention in autism (and the new study Julie contributed to)
- Gut-immune-brain axis, mTOR and amino acids (we talk about tryptophan at length)
- Significance of fecal microbiota transplants (and significance and future of this approach)
We start with a discussion about how common anxiety disorders are in autism, and how psychiatric medications are frequently prescribed.
This is why I’m so thrilled about the study Julie was part of: Comprehensive Nutritional and Dietary Intervention for Autism Spectrum Disorder-A Randomized, Controlled 12-Month Trial.
- study participants had a significant improvement in anxiety from a special diet and various nutritional supplements
- study participants saw improved communication skills as well as improved daily living skills and social skills – all of which can lead to reduced anxiety and social anxiety, and improved overall happiness
- there were also improvements in happiness, focus, IQ and language, as well as symptoms of autism
We talk about some of this in the in-person interview we did recently in San Diego.
(I also blogged about this study last year, shortly after the paper was published. You can read about it here so you’re familiar with all the details when you listen to our summit interview.)
Julie and I are both research geeks and in our full interview on the summit we get geeky and talk about new research on:
- The Gut-Immune-Brain Axis in Autism Spectrum Disorders A Focus on Amino Acids (we discuss mTOR and have a good discussion on the use of tryptophan vs 5-HTP)
- Fecal transplants in autism (the outcomes are incredibly promising! I’ve since heard that another bigger study is being planned by the same researchers)
You’re likely familiar with Julie’s autism nutrition work and practitioner training on special diets which I wholeheartedly endorse. In case you’re new to her work, Julie is a Certified Nutrition Consultant and published researcher specializing in complex neurological, digestive, and immune conditions, most notably autism. She is the author of the award-winning book, Nourishing Hope for Autism, and co-author of a study proving the efficacy of nutrition and dietary intervention for autism published in the peer-reviewed journal, Nutrients (the study I mention above).
If you’re looking for autism/anxiety and autism/gut solutions you won’t want to miss this interview.
If you are looking for anxiety nutritional and gut solutions but don’t have an autism spectrum disorder/ASD or family member with ASD I encourage you to listen in anyway. Julie’s approach is based on the BioIndividual Nutrition® needs of each person and stems from her 18 years of work with autism. Using autism as a model for complex chronic disease, her approach and methodology helps practitioners specializing in varied disorders improve the health and healing of their clients through her BioIndividual Nutrition Training for practitioners.
The above statement – using autism as a model for complex chronic disease – is an important one. In the short video clip above I mention how those with ASD are like the canaries in the coal mine. And we talk about many of the overlapping root causes we see in both anxiety disorders and ASD – such as methylation, nutritional deficiencies, gut issues and food sensitivities, heavy metals and so much more. Julie and I have been highlighting these overlaps for years. Much of what we cover in the interview has wide-reaching implications for anxiety and other chronic health conditions.
I am so appreciative to Julie for helping me figure out my own dietary oxalate issues which were causing excruciating hot-coals/shards-of-glass type foot pain. I’ve learned so much from Julie on this topic and you’ll hear me bring up oxalates in a number of interviews.
We also happen to be really good friends and love to laugh together (as you can tell!). These two pictures were taken in San Diego at the Mindshare conference (left) and Integrative Medicine for Mental Health conference (right), where we both presented.
You can listen to each of the interviews (and get transcripts) by purchasing The Anxiety Summit 5: Gut-Brain Axis.
If you’d like to give feedback or ask a question, please post in the comments section. I’d love to hear from you once you’ve listened in.
If you’d like to give feedback or ask a question, please post in the comments section at the bottom.
I’d love to hear from you once you’ve listened in to this interview and the others.
Nicola says
Hi Trudy
I have sent you a email before which said you are not taking anymore clients and was given some links.
My symptoms however have got worse and I know if I don’t try these amino acids I will have to go on an antidepressant as I am struggling too much and can’t continue.
I recently attended a webinar on women and autism and related so much. I was diagnosed in January with Aspergers but feel it has only just hit me. I feel so much pain and intense grief. I find it very hard to motivate myself and get out. At one point I just couldn’t even get out of the chair. I have a holiday coming up and have no interest in it. I would say I am clinically depressed.
I am a nurse and do have epilepsy even though I am on no medication and haven’t had a seizure for about 10 years. For me taking these amino acids is frightening and I am scare to do it by myself as they are adjusting chemicals in my brain.
However saying that I know if I do not give them a try I will end up on an antidepressant .
I live in Brisbane, Australia and need help now.
I have recently discovered that exercise does improve my mood and helps me to connect but that is very hard when all you want to do is curl up in bed.
Please can you help me with my fears. I feel the amino acids may help as a stepping stone to get back into a life I can live where I can get back into exercise and eating well.
Thanks
Trudy Scott says
Nicola
I mentioned GABA and serotonin support in the other comment but with pain/intense grief and low motivation/desire to curl up in bed, we look at low endorphins and low catecholamines respectively and do trials of tyrosine and DPA if needed. Always doing one trial at a time.
This is all explained in my book and there are many overlaps with anxiety and these symptoms in folks with Aspergers (the dietary information and the supplements).
Nicola says
Trudy
I been reading and feel I just need to do something straight away. I will do you 8 week course but feel I just need to start the tryptophan now to boost my serotonin and start curbing my bread and sweets.
How much do you think I should start on and how much could I increase it to without it being dangerous.
Thanks
Trudy Scott says
Nicola
I always start with addressing low serotonin with tryptophan or 5-HTP and low GABA with GABA.
The best way to determine if someone may have low GABA/serotonin is to look at the low GABA/serotonin symptoms, rate them on a scale of 1-10 with 10 being worst, do a trial of the respective amino acid and rate the symptoms again right afterwards (in the next 2 to 30 minutes). Here are the symptoms https://www.everywomanover29.com/blog/amino-acids-mood-questionnaire-from-the-antianxiety-food-solution/
The amino acids can be taken for a few months but ideally we work on underlying reasons why neurotransmitters are low.
If you are new to the amino acids (and other anxiety nutrition solutions like gluten/sugar/caffeine removal, blood sugar control, gut health, pyroluria etc) my book “The Antianxiety Food Solution” is a great place to start. More here https://www.everywomanover29.com/blog/the-antianxiety-food-solution-by-trudy-scott/
It’s a comprehensive approach – amino acids AND diet. What is your diet like right now – gluten-free, sugar-free, caffeine-free, eating protein at breakfast for blood sugar control, real whole foods, grass-fed red meat, wild fish, fermented foods etc?
I also encourage you to join my newsletter as I share new information all the time and speak on many summits. Both are great learning opportunities.
nicola says
Trudy
Can you only get your supplements if your in America.
Tried to order them but couldn’t.
I live in Brisbane, Australia
Trudy Scott says
Nicola
They can be mail ordered using shipitto
Nicola says
Hi Trudy
I ordered the l- tryptophan 500mg from you but got a email today saying it can’t be shipped to my address given by shipito because the label does not comply with Proposition 65.
It seems like I will never get these amino acids I need.
Are you able to offer any suggestions what I can do.
Thanks Nicola
Trudy Scott says
Nicola
I’ll have someone in my team reach out to you via email